Women in the Arena

Redefining Womanhood for the Modern Female with January Donovan

March 20, 2024 Audra Agen Season 6 Episode 16
Women in the Arena
Redefining Womanhood for the Modern Female with January Donovan
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Join the captivating January Donovan, a woman who's not only nurturing a family of ten, but also reshaping the narrative on women's self-worth through her innovative coaching and entrepreneurial spirit. In our latest episode, we engage in an enriching conversation that peels back the layers of society's 'poisonous P's' and their impact on how women perceive their value. January's insights are a clarion call to dismiss the conditional standards that so often confine us, urging a move towards embracing an unconditional appreciation of womanhood that is both holistic and healing.

We also navigate the often painful terrain of emotional wounds, especially those originating from childhood rejection, revealing how these scars can distort our self-image and ripple through our relationships. The discussion provides not just an empathetic ear but also a guide on how to channel these experiences into making meaningful societal contributions. Moreover, the dialogue traverses the cultural landscape, questioning whether the struggle for admiration and acceptance is a uniquely Western phenomenon or a universal human condition.

Finally, we celebrate the launch of a transformative women's school; an initiative birthed by January's vision to arm women with the life skills and knowledge that extend beyond the traditional education system. The school champions self-discovery, self-love, and the enduring power of community, aiming to kindle a global movement of empowered women poised to make positive waves in their lives and the world at large. This episode is a testament to the undeniable strength that lies in supporting one another and the collective journey toward female empowerment.


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***Last thing- I'd love to interview the following women:

  • Joan Jett
  • Dolly Parton
  • Viola Davis
  • Ina Garten

Maybe you can help me get there****


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Audra :

Welcome in everyone and thank you for joining me again this week on Women in the Arena podcast. This week, I am joined by this amazing, incredible, dynamic woman, january Donovan. Just listen to what this woman has accomplished. First of all, she is a wife and mother of eight eight children. She has started a multi-million dollar business out of her home with eight children. I'm emphasizing this because if she can build this business with eight children, you can do anything. She is the founder of the woman's school. She is a two-time best-selling author and she is featured in Forbes for one of the top self-worth coaches. It is my pleasure and my honor to introduce to you January Donovan. January, thank you so much for being here and welcome to the show.

January :

Thank you, Audra. Thank you for that generous introduction. I'm grateful to be here. I love that it is women in the arena. To me that just sparked such a depth of conversation, so I love that you're doing this. I'm so grateful to be here.

Audra :

I'm so happy to have been able to connect with you because we have a lot of synergies between our missions. But before we jump into that, I want to know a little bit more about you. Who is January Donovan?

January :

Wow. I would say I am a, first and foremost, a wife and a mother. I would say I'm a teacher and I'm a student. That's what I really like to. That's the self-image that I have of myself. I'd say that I am defender of what is true and good and beautiful. I think that that has been my life's mission is to uphold the standard of what it means to be a woman. I'm passionate about training, I'm passionate about elevating culture and I am passionate about, I would say, raising the standards for future generations of women.

Audra :

I am so inspired by everything you just said. When we first met, we had an amazing conversation and you said something so profound right out of the gate that I wrote it down. Your mission is for women to totally embrace all of the value that they bring to the world, which is exactly why I started this podcast. But you said something else that took my breath away, and that was that women are only valued for parts of themselves and we're judged on those parts as well. Those were the things that I wrote down because I thought, oh my gosh, I've never thought of it that way, but she's 100% right. Let's dive into a little bit about that, of this judgment of these parts of being a woman.

January :

Yes, it's a great first intro question. I find that women today have not been trained to discover their unconditional worth. You are uniquely created. You're irreplaceable, unrepeatable. Your brain cells tell you that, your trillions of cells tell you that. Neurological wiring tells you that. Your DNA tells you that, and not only that. Compounding that, that you were born in this time in history, with all the unique circumstances and all your unique experience, is essentially just evidence that gives you that you really are irreplaceable. Therefore, your value is unrepeatable, it's irreplaceable. So what I find is that we are not taught and trained to actually understand that.

January :

From a very deep neurological belief, women grow up today with an understanding that their worth is conditional, and this is kind of worth that plays in and what we call in the woman's goal, the poisonous speed, poisons our understanding of our self-worth. There is a, I would say, a blaring metric of our self-worth. What makes us valuable is what we call poisonous speeds, a five-piece, our positions of positions. I've got a PhD or I'm CEO of this right. Somehow, we are told that that makes us more important and valuable Our possessions, all the materials, our house. There's a car that I drive. Look at the name brand that I have right. That's underlying tone. It's like, ooh, she must be somebody important. Look at the name brands. That's what reason why we buy name brands, not because we want other people to think we're important. Because we don't believe we're important, we don't believe we're valuable.

January :

Number three is our popularity. It's the who's who. Culture, it's the followers. Culture, it's how many people like me, how people don't like me. And this is why loneliness is an international epidemic, because our metric is who's who right.

January :

And number four is our perfection how flawless, how perfect, how everything that we think seems to be. What perfect is body, fame, fortune. That's what we are, that's what we are hustling for, proving ourselves for. And last is power. What do we hold power? And so what we are seeing is that women don't believe in their value because we have an external sort of society that tells them they're only, or that only parts of them are valuable maybe their money, maybe their fame, maybe their body, and not the whole woman. Which is why we're hurting, because parts of us are actually bleeding, but we have no language for it, we're unaware of it, we're just shoved into this metric of conditional worth that what makes us valuable are if and when. You have all the poisonous pee and we carry the burden that only parts of us matter, because we, deep in our heart, want to believe that every part of us matters.

Audra :

What a gut-wrenching truth. Unfortunately, I mean that statement just at least, I had a very visceral reaction the moment that you said this. How do we get here? I mean, certainly we don't wake up in the morning and go. I only want people to recognize me for the value of my job or for my house. Nobody wakes up and has that conscious thought or decision or conversation with themselves. How did we land here?

January :

I have a theory that based just in 20 years of my work. When you look at a baby girl when she's born they can poop, pee and have eight children and you love them unconditionally. You get up at night and you're like I love you. Then they start to maybe get a little bit naughty. At three and four, all of a sudden we're like I love you, but only when you do good. Good girl, good girl. Then we start to go at good grades and he said, oh, I'm going to celebrate you, wouldn't you get an A? What we can produce are how we show up in the world. Then, all of a sudden, you go into their teenage years. You're only beautiful and except only if and when you look perfect, you've got popularity. What's happening in our culture? Then you were revered for the college we go to and then who we, what positions that we have in our job, or perhaps the perfect relationship that we have.

January :

There is a systemic neurological conditioning that I believe is happening to women. That's embedded in our culture, that I think it's a massive oversight. How did we get here? It's embedded in our system that we don't train our women, men and women really to believe that your grade is because you worked hard, but it doesn't make you less or more valuable in my eyes. Unknowingly, parents impose their conditional worth on their child. Maybe they will hold love, maybe they're more revered by their friends because they have more popular fancy clothes or name-brand clothes.

January :

You're now seeing a woman who, when she reaches her adult life, it's so compounding the wound, is so compounding of not being enough. Then we see her that not enough, but why? How did we get here? It's systemic, and so what we are seeing is generation, multiple generations of I don't feel good enough. I'm hurting, I mean, I numb myself. Drugs, sex, alcohol, name it. The antidepressant, the eating disorder. We've all become a victim to this metric of self-worth that we're swimming, that actually we're swimming in this mock, and this is exactly why women are pinned against each other. This is where jealousy comes in. This is where we start to sort of look at other women and, instead of celebrating them, we're so hurt from the conditions place on that we can't even honor other women.

Audra :

That is one of the things that I have been preaching for a long time and to anybody who stands still long enough. And even when my daughter was in high school, I told her we don't do mean girls. I don't believe in mean girls, I don't believe in being put up against another female, I don't. I have said for a very long time other women are my greatest asset. Whether I know them or we have clashing personalities, it doesn't matter. They are still my greatest asset because they are the only ones that actually know what I'm experiencing, how I'm feeling. So they're the only ones that can empathize and maybe help move things out of the way.

Audra :

So that's one thing I wanted to say. But the other thing I wanted to say, which I wanted to highlight for just a second, is this usage of the word wound I mean wounded by this. Can you expand a little bit on this idea, this visual of wound? Because when you say wound, I feel that I don't know how to articulate it. But, like I said, I can feel it, but I don't know how to express it.

January :

So I find that's precisely the problem is that you're feeling the wound but you don't even have words for the pain. It's like something hurts. I don't know where it is. It's a cancer, but it's a gaping and it's wound.

January :

So when I say, just think about a little girl who feels like her friends are rejecting her because she's not popular. Just think about a little girl who feels like her daughter's treating her siblings better the mom's treat because she got an A, and she feels that rejection. So there is a wounding. Of what rejection? Because we can't quite live up to this metric. So what happens is that you get a little cut right. You're four years old and you're like, oh, maybe my mom loves my brother more and it's not even a fault to a mom like there's just so many things going on, right, we're just trying to sort of survive. And then what happened is that small wound, and then it's now that wound goes into the friendship, what we call arena, and then you don't.

January :

So if you look at the woman's school, it's based on a woman in the arena. Really that's why you really gravitated the whole woman. So you think about the self image which is the opinion that we hold of ourself If we don't have a healthy opinion about ourselves because we've been wounded and somebody was critical of us but we didn't know how to fight, that we didn't know to say you know, your opinion of me is really not my opinion of me, like you know what Everybody, let's just say the mean girls. This idea that girls that we're tolerating as a culture, that we're watching this, we're celebrating the villain, and so all that, I think compounds as a wound that women experience, because here's the reason why I think I think we're made for admiration. Now, when I say that women are like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what I mean by that.

Audra :

That was exactly my response. I was kind of like January, what?

January :

So what does admiration means? It means that you're in awe of something. When you admire something, you're like, ah, there's a visceral sort of experience that you're saying something about. That person is so good, it moves me right. Who doesn't want that, audra? Who doesn't want that from a friend? Who doesn't want that from a mother? Who doesn't want that from a lover, a boss? It's like, wow, audra, something about you, I just admire you. So the opposite of admiration is that deep rejection. So our hearts are made for deep admiration. It fulfills us, it fills us like I'm a good person, that who I am profoundly impacts you like wow. And the opposite is true. It's like, oh, I'm not enough for you. So why is it wounding us? Because I think we're made for admiration.

Audra :

I have to share with you that when you explained being made for admiration, I got a lump in my throat. I'm literally sitting here trying not to cry and it's I think it's because, like like you said, I didn't have the language to express this wound. But what you explained is absolutely accurate of we all just want to be valued. For that one thing that I may do, that's really, that's really special, that affects you in a positive way, and I may do things differently for different people that affects them in different ways, which absolutely means that there's a weird validation that's happening, and when I don't get that validation, I immediately jump to rejection. Yeah, yeah, which is, I guess that's where the pain is coming from.

January :

But I think the pain yeah, I think the pain too is because we don't actually know how to respond to rejection. We don't have the skill or the mindset to say well, people have bad days, that doesn't. I don't have to take it personally. You know a four year old, a six year old. They need to have a script to actually work through rejection and I'm very sensitive about that with my own children, boy and girl, to know that the world is wounded and they will be rejected as part of the human experience. But how you respond to that rejection could also be your greatest asset.

January :

Our wounds become the compass to our contribution. That, to me, is the redemption of a wound, because we're wounded people. I am 100% positive. I'm wounding my children unknowingly because I love them imperfectly, right, but I can hope that their wounds can become the compass towards contribution. My own wound of not having a mother, of not having someone that mentored me, is the reason why I'm doing what I'm doing. Therefore, you know, number one is we have to identify the ache and give language to it. And number two from that ache, we have to learn a harvest from that. What have I gained from that? And number three how can I then give that back as a form of contribution? Now the wound no longer is escaping wound. It now becomes something that can heal other people, and that's how, I think, we use our wound as a compass towards our contribution.

Audra :

What a profound calling, because it sounds like each and every one of us have a calling to do that, to add to the healing rather than add to the festering wound. I'm curious. I know that this culture is alive and well in North America because I live it every single day, you live it every single day. Is this just particular to us, or is this a cultural perpetuation globally?

January :

That's a really great question. I find that maybe in the more Western world, because it's fast and it's moving in a way that it hinders us from processing and pondering deeply, I think it's happening greater. That's number one. I think that certain cultures are, they have a built still a built infrastructure of family and community, if you think of maybe some of the African cultures or the Asian cultures where you're kind of living in your tribe, in your community, so there isn't a sense of loneliness that comes from a lack of belonging, because I think what happens is that when we feel rejected, then therefore we don't belong. But maybe in certain culture where they have the infrastructure of community, of family, of friends, when you go through some of the challenges, you're still part of a community where you feel like I still belong. So I think that's the difference is that we're isolated interiorly.

January :

What I mean by that is, I think in the Western world we have made lack of vulnerability, of strength. I've got it all figured out. Our definition of a strong woman has actually weakened us. It's a false definition of woman, like what Brene Brown talks about. The true strength of woman that's vulnerable. I can do it all by myself is a mantra that we've lived, I would say, in the last 70 years. It's ruined the true strength of a woman because, therefore, she no longer needs the other, and that's not the natural order of life. You can't do it alone. It takes a village. And secondly, in order to feel strong and feel that admiration, I better do it by myself and do it so perfectly.

Audra :

Oh my gosh, you are saying so much truth that I have Don't think I've been brave enough to say out loud, because it's a lot.

Audra :

The reality is that I get frustrated and angry when my husband tries to help me with something.

Audra :

It makes me so angry because I look at him and say I can do this myself, I don't need you to fix me, I don't need you to rescue me, I don't need your help, let me do it. But then I see he is crestfallen because he just wants to contribute and I've taken this all on my own, which makes me tired, which makes me sad, it drains my energy, it drains my focus, because I've been conditioned and I am guilty of this because I bought into it hook, line and sinker that if I can do it all on my own, I've got it all down all the time. And I'm here to tell you that I do not. I may pretend that I have got this all organized and all going on and that I know exactly what I'm going to do and what next step to take. I don't. I am just. I'm picking up my feet and going with it most of the time and probably faking it most of the time, because this adult thing is not for the faint of heart.

January :

I think you're not alone and but what I'm saying, audrey, is that often you know I've spoken to thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of women you're feeling the burden of an ache you have no language for yes, and that's just because you don't have language for it, that doesn't mean you're burned by it. And I think that we've bought into this propaganda and I think that the feminist movement have served us so well in our ability to vote, to own property. I think that obviously was a progression towards our culture. I think that, like many different movements, you are taking to sort of two radical extremes of like I can do it all by myself, I don't need you, whatever I want, whatever I feel like and we're now seeing the data that women without a voice, without a choice, is obviously not a healthy society, but a woman who thinks you can do everything by herself, I can do whatever I want whenever I want. It's also equally unhealthy, and I think there's a new woman rising from these ashes, and this is what I talk about. There's a new woman that's saying I want both my choice and my responsibility. I want to know that I can receive and give help. I want to equally also respect the value of men, because I respect my value. I don't need to try to be a man. I can honor both men, receive from him but also give to him.

January :

I think we're moving towards that new woman. That is my hunch from just 20 years of study, and I think it's strictly because of data. I think we're seeing a lot of women that are unhappy with their marriages, unhappy with who they are, and I honestly believe it's not a fault of our own. I think we're swimming in this muck and we're a society that's trying to figure out, trying to progress, and I think you learn, you know, oh, you know what. I don't need to try to be a man. I don't need to try to say to a man, I don't need you. As a matter of fact, the more we can work together as a society, the more I think we can elevate society, not usurping our different dynamics and roles and gifts, but rather working towards, sort of this, greater union and humility. And I think there's a new surgence of women that's moving towards that direction of I am unique and irreplaceable and every woman is and every man is. And how can we work together?

Audra :

And I think that that is going to be the foundation of a well-working society. And what you're speaking of is just respect for another human being, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, whatever your preference is, religious, background, cultural background just the respect for another human being on this planet, that they are unique and they have special gifts and they have special values and they have flaws that make them so interesting. Yes, and that's what you're really speaking about is that we really we're put on this planet as a community and we've somehow put ourselves in boxes and we've got a lot of really miserable, tired people around there, around anywhere. We might be feeling it ourselves. There is a level of exhaustion that I can't describe. It's not physical. It's not a physical exhaustion.

Audra :

Spiritual exhaustion, I think Likely, but I don't have the language to express it, and many of the women that I've spoken to also don't have the language to express it. They're just like there's this feeling, there's this heaviness. I don't know how to describe it, I don't know what to do with it, but you're brilliant and you've recognized that this is an issue and I'm so, I'm so excited to share with all of the audience that you've created something for free. I mean, this is a free thing. You have created a course in the women's school that is purely designed to help bring us back into ourselves, to who we are and, please, I am not going to do it justice.

Audra :

So please explain to us this amazing, beautiful course that you have designed.

January :

So the vision for the women's school for me? I drew it up when I was in my early 20s I was right, 21. And my vision there was if somebody showed me how, I probably would not have suffered on the way I did. And I saw women suffered unnecessarily broken relationships, not knowing their value, or their family life was a mess, or they were always strapped for money, or their home life was chaotic. And I felt like women had no access to training right Women's training, doctor's training, lawyer's training but the idea of learning how to be a woman seems so foreign, as though we are born knowing how to be a woman, and I think that's the biggest lie that we have never, I think, discovered in our culture, where we just presume we know how to find a friend, we know how to be a friend, we know how to be intimate with somebody, we know how to communicate. All these things, I think, are the reason why women blame and shame themselves for the choices nobody ever taught them how to make. So the vision for the women's school is let's have access to training women how to be a woman, and that's kind of what I've done for 25 years. I take complex things and put it into bite-sized pieces so that we can interiorly discover who we are, our unique, irreplaceable purpose, and then go forth and live that unique purpose. But how do you do that? Training Skill. I teach hundreds of skills. Pivoting is a skill, Honoring your values is a skill, making a decision is a skill, and so that's the premise of the women's school is there needs to be a place where women can feel safe to grow. And we do that through a community and we do that through coaching and we do that through our courses. Now I'm giving you a sliver of our courses. I teach our courses.

January :

So I had this inspiration this past month. I'm giving you the history behind it so you can kind of see the full circle. And this idea of how to be a woman has been etched in my heart, audra, for decades. And I thought, for such a time as this, where we are being erased and I'm gonna say that we have to own that Ponder it in my heart how do we teach women to fight for their value? So I came up with this idea. I said what if we had a how to be a woman course when we teach women to understand who are you, what's hurting you, what do you want? What do you not want? What is your dream? What is your purpose? What do you love in every part of your life? How do you design every arena of your life? And so this how to be a woman freak course. I thought we all need to learn how to be a woman for the rest of our life, because we're a dynamic human being and we can never exhaust how we rediscover ourselves.

January :

So there's four parts and it's for one month, so it's free. The whole thing is free for one month. You just need to come into a month. We're gonna open it a couple months at a time. I know and I believe in this course, and so the first week we're gonna discover who we are. The second week we're gonna discover our desires. The third week we're gonna design every part of our life, and the fourth week we're gonna learn how to defend the value of a woman.

January :

So what you do is that you sign up for the course and then we put you in groups of women, a community, and you journey the course together and then you watch it on your own time. There's one or two page homework and it's all interior work, and then you show up one hour once a week for one month and then you process what you've learned together so that you can share and collaborate, and you do it for four weeks and then you're done and everything is free Free coaching, free course, free community. You just have to commit to a month that you wanna start. The whole thing is free.

Audra :

What a beautiful gift. And I love how you prefaced this by saying you do not dishonor anybody else's choices, you just don't wanna lose value in who you are. Yes, and I think that that's. I think the two exist in the same time. Both things are true, absolutely. We respect people that are different than us. We respect people that have different choices, but you also have to respect mine too. I think that is such a beautiful thing that you have acknowledged and taken that and said these two things can coexist at the same time and in harmony. Yes, so I think that that is a beautiful thing and that you've created this course. If nothing else, you've helped create individual communities for these women that may not have the opportunity to connect with each other in any other way, because and since your company is in 40 different countries, that means that you could connect with women around the world.

January :

Very excited to know that we're actually bringing women from all over the world, all different types of community, of seasons of life. I think that's the exciting part is that we have women, all different seasons of life, different culture, and we're all learning from each other, and I think that is such a gift because you are just enriched by the different way people live, the different way women live the different struggles in different culture, and I think it also gives you a sense of perspective, of gratitude for what you have in your own culture, in your own community.

Audra :

Well, how will you know that your experiment, your idea, this course that you have been thinking about for a very long time? How will you know that it's successful and that you're onto something?

January :

Well, I launched the women's school masterclass in 2019 and that's the course that got us into 40 countries and that course is about five months four months and it is a deep dive understanding. I mean, I do skill, I do hundreds of scripts. I go really into the neuroscience of your brain and help women understand rewire. So that course, I know, is the reason now we have a wholeness coaching school department and a man's school. That's actually the reason why people are not gonna knock on the door and saying can we have a coaching school, which I never imagined I would do, but I think because of the transformation of women in that course. They basically said how can we build a business around it? So how do I know? Because the how to be on free course is essentially a precursor towards it. It actually gives women the language for their ache and their struggle and helping them identify. Oh, that's why I'm hurting. So, to me, this course actually awakens us to a deeper awareness of self-love, because you can't love that which you do not know.

Audra :

I was. You already answered a question that I was gonna ask, which is at the bottom line what do you hope women will experience and what they will gain from this experience with being with other women? But you just described it as being more aware of who they are and awaken some parts of themselves that maybe they forgot about, or maybe they thought I don't have time for it or that's silly, or any and all of the above.

January :

Yes, and I think the purpose of self-love is actually to love the other, and that's, I think, the reason why we're lonely and we have broken relationships, because the relationship, the primary relationship we have with ourselves is actually wounded.

January :

So, and I think it's an important distinction, otter, because there's a lot of, I would say, coaching model that teaches you it's all about you, you love yourself for the sake of yourself and it's all about you. And I think it's still a dead end, because we're once again not made to be alone. So if this me, world, me, me, me, all about me, you know, make sure you've got all your life, perfect, your everything in order, but to what end? And we know that what fulfills the human heart is generosity, is to give more of ourselves. So that's the reason why we know ourselves, to love ourselves, so we can love other people around us. And that's what is going to rebuild our culture, is an ordered understanding of what love of self is for the purpose of greater, I would say, acceptance, patience, kindness towards the other person that we don't have currently in our culture.

Audra :

What a gracious gift and profound gift that you are, have produced and are giving to the world. And you did mention that you had a man's school, and I know that that's not what the free course is. The free course is specifically for women, but you didn't neglect that there's another, there's the other side to this coin, which is men. Yes, yes, and why did you decide to create a course for men when your purpose is clearly focused on helping women?

January :

be their best selves? That's a great question. So I didn't. To be sincerely honest with you, I thought this is so silly, like what Right you know? But it was the women that were asking for their men. It was actually their voice and saying we can't do this alone, because they were interiorly changing their lives. They were seeing it and they realize I can't exponentially grow if I'm doing this by myself, and what and that's where the man's school came from was women that actually wanted to do it together, wanted to collaborate together, and we are going to have a free how to be a man course, by the way, it's just coming soon, so stay tuned. But what I am seeing so so I mean it's an awe of it is when you do have couples and relationships that are growing together and training together, you have explosions, because one of the reasons why relationships are hurting right now is that they're not growing individually and together They've become stale.

Audra :

Yeah, yeah.

January :

Well, I think, yeah, it's. It's that life of quiet, desperation that the road talks about.

Audra :

Wow, quiet, desperation, it's, there's. No, there's no worse feeling Than feeling stuck.

January :

Yes, it's that helplessness and hopelessness and I think that's actually the burden that a lot of women are feeling is okay, I'm hurting, I think I've got this, but there's no way out. It's like they're screaming and they cannot be heard because they they, they can't cast a vision of what is possible in this lifetime. This is where the woman's school comes in. Is that? The training is what makes it possible? Because, even though you want a beautiful family life, you want a beautiful, peaceful home or relationship, if you don't know the how, it's going to eventually make you resentful of those that have it, it's going to make you bitter towards what you already have and it's going to actually other depress you. So all of that is what's happening, and it's not because you don't want it. It's because you don't know how to get what it is that you want.

Audra :

Everything that you have said today is just I have this visceral response that is, honestly, is surprising me and catching me off card. But clearly, it's because what you're saying is absolutely accurate that I have these feelings that I don't know where to put and I don't know how to express. And it's because I've not been taught and I'm not alone. I have a lot of friends and a lot of audience members who are all just friends I just haven't met yet that are probably feeling the same way too, and I think it's amazing and remarkable that your life's work has been dedicated to giving to other people, which is just an amazing gracious gift. And you know that when you know when you are in your purpose, when you have the ability to give and feel fulfilled as well as make a living doing it, that's when you know you're in alignment. Yeah, yeah.

January :

It's giving and receiving, and that's really the beauty of the artistry of being a woman is the receptivity and the generosity that cycles her own life. But women are giving without receiving. That's why we're empty.

Audra :

That's where our cups are empty. You have, you've shared a lot of amazing, wonderful things with the audience today, and this part of the show is my absolute favorite part, because I get to step back from the mic and give you the opportunity to have a direct, intimate moment with the audience without me interrupting. So I am going to step back and allow you the space to speak directly to them.

January :

Thank you for that privilege and that opportunity and thank you, adra, for your kindness, your openness to this message. You're really, the strength and the vulnerability that you've shown here and the kindness you've shown here to me means a lot. So I just want to honor you and I commend you, because I think you're bringing in women together all over the world. You're in what? 47 countries, or 70 countries, 70 countries, sorry, 70 countries, which is amazing, and so I want to just commend you. So to the women in the arena, I say to you have hope. Our work has just begun.

January :

I believe that you and I were created for such a time as this, where women are no longer going to be victim to what the world tells them they need to be. They are now going to armor up and say I am going to take responsibility, to own my worth and become fully who I was created to be. If that means I need to daily discipline myself, I think that there's a new woman that's rising from this, and if you're sitting here and you're seeing January, I want that, it's because you are made for it. You're made to be fully alive in every arena of your life. It's not perfection, it's about being fully alive because you're growing and you are becoming every single day of your life. You just have to train for it, you just have to make a decision to invest in who you need to become every single day.

January :

And I think our call is to rebuild culture one woman's worth at a time, and I think that this is our time. It's a beautiful, privilege time to be a woman. So I invite you to this deep work, interior work where, once upon a time, we fought for our freedom, now we are fighting for our interior freedom, because having freedom is not the same as being free, and so, right now, it's about being free and fully alive. So join me, join the how to Be a Woman free course. I've given this my heart and soul. It's 20 years in the making, 25 years in the making. You're going to awaken to the beautiful masterpiece that's within you and realize that every day is a new day for you to become.

Audra :

Thank you, january. Thank you so much for your vulnerability and sharing your life's work with all of us. How would the audience get in contact with you if they want to learn more about you, about your vision? Maybe read your books, how and what, and how is the best way to connect with you?

January :

Great. So go to the howtobeamwomfricoursecom. You can sign up there. It's free and sign up for the month that you want to take the course. That's number one for the free course, and you can go to thewomenschoolcom or januarydownupincom and follow us on Instagram. It's the best way to follow, but I'm actually I used to do these webinars to our students. We've got 40,000 of people kind of tuning into our community and I've decided to take those webinars and throw a YouTube channel and they're going to be all how to trainings. So if you want to learn more about the how to how to be a woman, go deep dive, subscribe to us on YouTube, and I'm about ready to really blow up the how to be a woman in YouTube as well.

Audra :

So that's amazing, and it's. I will link the website of how to be a woman. I will also link January's website to her big main page so you can get all the information about her courses, about her, about her family and about what her mission is on this earth. So thank you for sharing all of that with us and, once again, for being so vulnerable and being here with me, because I think that this is where it starts we help building each other up one woman at a time that's right.

January :

Thank you so much. Thank you, world, wherever you are listening. Thank you, Audra, so much.

Audra :

Thank you, and I want to thank all of you once again for listening and we'll see you again next time.

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